Boko Haram responsible for killings, kidnappings in Zamfara, Benue, others – Gov Masari

Katsina state Governor, Aminu Bello Masari, in this interview with PATRICK ANDREW, gives his scorecard stating why he needs a second term as well as his passion for President Muhammadu Buhari’s re-election bid.

Second term ambition

Why not a second term? We came up with a restoration agenda; to restore Katsina state to its lost glory and pride: which is education. Even before the coming of Whiteman, the first Islamic institution that was built in Gobarau is over 1,000 years old, so Katsina was only second to Timbuktu, in terms of Islamic education at that time. So, when the colonialists came, they found this level of education in Katsina and found the people very receptive of education, so that’s why the first post primary institution in the northern part of the country is in Katsina.

If you look at the WAEC and NECO results, by 2015 when we came in, Katsina state was among the last three in terms of academic performance. So, we had lost it. The people of Katsina could compete for federal appointments, businesses, academics, name it. That same Katsina over 40 years ago, we had a pilot, who was piloting 747, from Daura. I think he died last year. He had a traditional title before his death.

If you go to the members of the armed forces, you could see the array of Katsina people, the same in the judiciary and higher institutions, but this is declining seriously. So, the best we can do is to lay a solid foundation that will recapture the lost glory, especially in the area of education, because it is critical.

What we call Katsina State was Katsina Province, made up of Daura Emirate and Katsina Emirate. At that time, Daura Emirate, which was brought back from Kano and Katsina brought from Zaria, were joined to form Katsina State from Katsina province.

All our education, health, judiciary institutions, police and prisons were being run by the native authority, including the bureaucracy of the native authority. Agriculture and livestock were the main sources of revenue. So, if it was like that 40 years ago, who says it can’t it be like that today? The only place we had problems, just like in other parts of the country, probably, to a large extent, except Southwest, was leadership. We have declined in the quality of leadership. It was not that particular in the Southwest. The educational foundation laid by Chief Obafemi Awolowo was what gave the Southwest the edge over others. You can’t be in serious business or telecom without education. We have the largest population in the North-west, but if care is not taken, it will be a liability.

Plans for Katsina

People have accepted what we are doing, that is why they turned up en mass for the flag off campaign in Uyo. As a leader, you have to be sincere with your people. Dishonesty partly kills leadership in this country. Leaders don’t have trust, as they tell lies. What we are trying to do is to match our words with action. The time has come for us to answer what we promised the people of Katsina state. We cannot do it in a crowd; we will go to local government by local government. In 2015, I slept in almost all the 34 local governments in Katsina. People had recorded me and they are bound to ask me questions about what I promised.

Achievements

To be specific, what have we done in education? Before we started, we commissioned a committee that visited all the primary and secondary schools in the state, checking the population of students and the qualification of teachers, to know who were the teachers and who were not. We generated a report sponsored by the DFID and other donor agencies under the University of Abuja.

Luckily, one of the research fellows was Professor Salihu from Katsina state. He availed me the complete copy of their assessment. Our state was one of the states they visited and took samples of the quality of teachers.

Over 60 per cent of the teachers they tested could not pass the test of the class they were teaching. Primary four teachers could not answer the questions meant for primary four pupils. I tried it myself.

I visited a primary school and met a teacher teaching Hausa. He asked the students about seven Hausa states and seven Banza states. They could not answer and he too could not provide the answer.

We looked at the infrastructure levels in the schools and they were discouraging. All the walls had broken down and what was left of the foundation was breaking, because the DPC was not done properly. When you don’t do DPC and then do flooring, it means rainfall will break it.

When I was campaigning, I went to a village in a local government. Luckily enough, one of the walls of the school was standing as it was built in 2013, but it collapsed in 2014. We did all these surveys and we have the record.

In order to admit 50 students per class, we decided to have additional 13,000 classes in Katsina state across primary and secondary schools, apart from those that were rehabilitated. As for shortage of teachers, we are looking for over 16, 000 teachers in all subjects for primary and secondary schools. These figures are in an ideal situation, which may be difficult to get at the best of times, because, even if you have the resources, you may lack the manpower, because teachers need to be trained.

Not everybody is a teacher. You may have the qualifications, but may lack the principles. We are looking at 58, 000 chairs and tables to replace the shortages, especially the staff. We have many schools in the state without a single desk or chair. We have to measure how far we have gone. I know we have provided more than 38, 000 seats.

We have rehabilitated over 1, 024 schools and built over 726 additional classes for the primary school alone. We deliberately selected Girls Secondary schools in Katsina and renovated 8 new classes, built new dormitories, built kitchens and toilets for them, because they are schools where the girls were defecating outside, because all the toilets had collapsed.

We replaced all the teachers who retired. We did a survey in the local government system and removed over 723 graduates and transferred them to the Ministry of Education. We employed 1, 950 teachers and we are now replacing on quarterly basis. Even now, we are replacing about 58 retired teachers. Despite the fact that we had recruited over 1, 000 teachers for primary education, but we were not still getting the figures.

We decided to start borrowing from what the federal government was doing in the N-Power program. We started to pay any NCE or Diploma holder in education N20, 000 per month. We replaced any retired teacher with any N-Power graduate who has teaching qualification. When the graduates complained, we decided to recruit between 2, 000 to 3, 000 of them who have qualifications in education, especially Education English, Education Islamic Studies, Education Hausa, among others and we paid them N25, 000.

We used them as a reserve for replacing retired teachers. We are now partnering with an NGO being run by Dr. Rabe. They have an agreement with a college in the U.K. for the training of teachers and they are going to offer three months free training for you to become a professional teacher. We believe that, if you get teachers, students, textbooks, you can even teach under heat. We have bought all instruction books for teachers in all subjects.

We spent over N700 million in purchasing all these instruction materials. Anybody asking what we have done in education, each local government we are going for a multimedia presentation, we will have a list of all the projects we have done.

Campaigning for Buhari

I can campaign for President Muhammadu Buhari in Katsina, however small, at the national level. I was Speaker of the House of Representatives from 2003 to 2007. Within that period, I had the opportunity of meeting over 300 House of Representatives members. Of the more than 300 members, I visited all their constituencies before the end of our tenure and we have maintained cordial and good relationship with most of them. I can safely say that I have a wider reach; in terms of people I know within the political circle and business community.

In fact, as Speaker, I had the opportunity of meeting all the first class traditional rulers of this country. The Oni of Ife gave me a traditional title, I had one from Osun, Port Harcourt, Eleme Kingdom, Abakaliki, among others. I also had the opportunity of meeting religious leaders: both Christians and Muslims, and I still maintain cordial relationship with them.

I also had the opportunity of meeting labour leaders, as I played a role in resolving some of their issues. Some of them are still in the system. In fact, when I was campaigning to be Speaker in 2003, I went to Nigeria Labour Congress (NLC).

That’s when I first met Adams Oshiomhole, who asked why I came to NLC, when I know it does not have a vote. I told him that he does not have to be a voting member to be a stakeholder, as the NLC comes to the House for legislative concerns. I met other stakeholders, including the Nigeria Guild of Editors and Newspaper Proprietors. I went round and reached critical stakeholders and everybody I could possibly reach, because I know that you gain more by establishing relationships than by not establishing relationships.

When President Buhari was campaigning under the CPC, there was no state we went to that I did not meet people that I knew and people that knew me; without my even knowing them, because if they were not in the House I might have met me without my remembering them.

Therefore, when it comes to how I can assist the President, I think that the friendship I have built across the country will help. I recently met with some Senators and former colleagues in the House in Bui. Some of them were in the Constitutional Conference with me in 1994/1995 and I met and recognized them, so such connections come handy in this politicking time.

Those working against APC

I am not worried about those working against the APC, because my little understanding of human beings is normal. In most cases, people will say that we have a bad leader, no matter how good he may be. If you go to the Oba’s or Emir’s palace, you will meet the good, the bad and the ugly people and each one has his use at a particular time.

When we were campaigning, we said that the change we are advocating is not about names or faces, but the way we conduct government business and that will impact positively on interpersonal relationship. Some of the crowd came because they believe they have a vehicle to reach a particular position, while others came because they are committed and believe there is need to change, but some came because one Alhaji, Dr, Mr is there and they want to be there too; even if they don’t know the import of what they are there to do.

In the first party primaries since we took over government, the party, in its wisdom, wanted to change the narrative whereby some governors will impose candidates on the people to succeed him. This is what the Change Mantra is all about: carrying people along. If you get the majority believing in a particular thing, then you move in that direction. There is a soft landing space for those who don’t believe, because everybody is useful.

Late Malam Aminu Kano said that one shouldn’t pray for all his children to be good, but to have a stubborn or rascal child who can return insult and not turn the other way out of respect when the father is abused or insulted. Anybody who wants to insult you tomorrow will remember you have a rascal among your sons and then respect himself. That is the way life and government is. You may think that some people are not useful here, but they will be useful there.

Delivering on 2015 promises

Like we said, Buhari cannot solve all Nigeria’s problems, but if he can lay a solid foundation, anybody who comes will not take us back to those bad days. We are fighting corruption, but corruption is also fighting back in a more vicious way by using some of the media outfits and legal loopholes to exploit and escape. When Buhari was fighting corruption as a military Head of State, it was up to you to prove your innocence. Once you are strongly suspected, it is left for you to prove your innocence.

But today, it is the other way round; it is the government proving beyond reasonable doubt that one is corrupt. We may be delaying, but it is the best in the long run, especially in this system of arresting corruption and corrupt officials on whatever offense. It is always better to go slowly, because, at the end of the day, you will do what is right; rather than be in a hurry for the innocent to suffer.

If you cannot prove anything in court, it is a mere waste of time, but it is up to society to reject those kinds of people. In my life, I knew one honest woman who exposed the corruption of her son. Her son was the classmate of the son of my elder brother, so I managed to secure a job for him as a cashier. However, we were not living in the same place for me to assess his lifestyle. He started romancing with men above his class, but who were using him to steal money. When I went to the village, his mother came to me to complain that he recently bought a car, when his salary could not afford that.

I used my connection to remove him from the cash office to a department he will retire and not being dismissed. Not up to six months, all the people he was romancing with were arrested. So the late woman was the only person I saw that rejected corruption, even to the extent of reporting her son. So, if people in society can distance themselves from this kind of people, it will also help and proving cases will not be difficult. Those sitting in small places in the seat of power are not the dangerous ones, but the hypocrites are the more dangerous ones. Even prophets lived with them.

Once you are in power, all sorts of people will come to you and you must share with them according to the system. But if the head is good, it reduces the level of corruption, but anyone that is caught is ‘on his own.’

Insecurity in the North-east

As a state, I am also a victim, because we have spent billions since we came into government. The forest in Zamfara stretched across 9 local government areas in Katsina and beyond. If you can remember, this killing in Zamfara started even before 2010. The forest leads to Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso down to Senegal across the River Niger, so it is not an ordinary forest.

It is 100 kilometres if you are crossing from Zamfara before you reach any reasonable distance and another way to Central African Republic. After the fall of Boko Haram, this people became more energized with arms and ammunitions coming through because of the Fall of Libya.

The crisis in Mali and Niger Republic helped the Boko Haram. The people in the forest are stark illiterates: both in Islamic and western education, so their behaviours are exactly like that of the animal they are rearing. We tried to isolate all the herdsmen living in Katsina and we succeeded up to 80 per cent. We had an amnesty programme and they returned over 347 arms, including AK47, revolvers and some Dane guns, and we are collecting gradually in pieces of two or three. We were able to restore normalcy as people could not farm when we came in.

We have not restored total normalcy because it is a wide area covering nine local government areas and over 200kms, so they can easily infiltrate. We have the Nigeria Air Force stationed here. But if you kill one person, another one will come out, because they don’t know the value of life, because of lack of education.

There are many allegations going round, especially the involvement of local traditional institutions in villages and towns. They were stealing from non-Fulani in their farms and they are now stealing among themselves. What is worrisome is the spate of kidnapping. They are no longer stealing cows, because if you steal cow and take it to the market, it may be recovered. But if you kidnap somebody you ask for ransom. It is a serious situation, because the area is vast. When you push them out, they spill over to Kaduna or Niger with a vast forest.

Here in Zamfara and part of Katsina, they are many settlements in the forest and they can easily attack the settlement, steal they food, rape their women and kill them. I recently visited an IDPs camp that housed people who were sacked from their villages. If the story they told us is true, then what is happening in the forest is no longer the issue of cattle rustling. The killing resembles Boko Haram killing in a way, though we have not confirmed what we heard, because it is only Boko Haram that kills for nothing.

One elderly man said that seven of his friends were decapitated and their stomach opened, but we have not confirmed that, though he seemed learned from his language and have more than average Islamic knowledge. There is a correlation, otherwise where are they getting their arms and ammunitions? It is a circle. Those supplying Boko Haram with arms have found another market. If you see the way the military and police are retaliating in the forest and the people keep on moving, you wonder if the population of people in the forest is not being under reported.

Campaign message

We are renewing our pledge. We will give them our scorecard and unveil what we are going to do to them, because we have to say what we did in the last four years and what we hope to achieve in the next four years and give them our target.

In education, we decided that government will pay for the WAEC and NECO of a candidate who scored a certain number of credits, but government will not pay if you repeat. If you take a chance by registering yourself and you pass, government will refund you.

We have reached 87 per cent in terms of WAEC for those who have 5 credits, including English and Math. What we had when we came in was 10 to 11 percent, including our children who are in Lagos, Kaduna, Abuja, Port Harcourt. Once they put Katsina state, WAEC will give the pass mark and we will distinguish the figures.

We removed all the people from private school and discovered that the public school is the best you can get an increase percentage. These public schools have over 40, 000 to 50, 000 that are being presented for exam, then you have 3 per cent. Are we not breeding insecurity?

When we were in the House, the American government, through the Pentagon, alerted us about the dangers of poverty and insecurity. They predicted this Boko Haram. And when Nigerians were crying and condemning, America said they were just advising us, because no country in Africa can take refugees from Nigeria because the stability of Nigeria means the stability of Africa and Europe. If Europe is not stable, America will not be stable as there will be massive movement of people. Whether Europeans like it or not, some will cross as emigrants, others will die, but some will reach their shores.

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